Open discussion on all modern inline & custom smokeless muzzleloaders ( for hunting & target shooting )

[Ninering62]

I would have been all for one " muzzleloader section " in this forum, I didn't see a need for the division with them.
But there is no denying the fact that there is a divide between the traditionalists & the modern inline & smokeless muzzleloaders enthusiasts, & its a pretty big one.
And virtually everything that I do with muzzleloaders ( even with the cpl semi-traditional muzzleloaders I have ) & I teach about muzzleloaders pisses off most traditionalists & I kinda enjoy that in all honesty.
So this will hopefully prevent all of the pissing matches that happen in the forums between the traditional guys & us modern inline & smokeless guys. I want no part of any of that.
So I hope this will be where all that want to discuss the modern stuff, modern bullets used in them, modern powders used in them, modern optics choices on them & full custom builds & where the future of modern muzzleloading is headed.

 

[Ozzie]

I had a Gun Shop in NY. Some of the tradition Muzzleloader shooters would come in my shop and bitch that I had inlines. Sabots, bullets , powder and other modern ML stuff on the shelf. one guy told me he would never shop at my place again. I was in about the last county that would not allow rifles in deer season so a lot of guys went with inline muzzleloaders and I sold a lot of Savage smokeless ML's. I still have the one I hunted with in NY, I have not used it in the 9 yrs. I've been in Fl. I am going to sell it. I just turned 75 and my hunting days are over.

 

[Ninering62]

I had a Gun Shop in NY. Some of the tradition Muzzleloader shooters would come in my shop and bitch that I had inlines. Sabots, bullets , powder and other modern ML stuff on the shelf. one guy told me he would never shop at my place again. I was in about the last county that would not allow rifles in deer season so a lot of guys went with inline muzzleloaders and I sold a lot of Savage smokeless ML's. I still have the one I hunted with in NY, I have not used it in the 9 yrs. I've been in Fl. I am going to sell it. I just turned 75 and my hunting days are over.

Thank you for your post. I've seen more than my fair share of those kinds guys. I can not stand them!!!

 

[Ninering62]

Here is the debut of the worlds first .30 smokeless longrange target muzzleloader I've designated the " Paramount 30LRT ".
It's built on a 2019 CVA Paramount action.
The trigger is factory & set at 1.5lbs. Everything else about the gun is one-off prototype first of its kind.
2.5yrs of studying & research went into just learning if this was even possible, who'd gone down a sub-cal smokeless muzzleloader before, what worked, what failed, and why. The list of guys on the planet that are playing in this realm with other .30 smokeless muzzleloader's are only a handful. That's it!
The guy test shooting it for the first time today, is shooting a 125g .308 Sierra MatchKing bullet @3073fps. That's a " starting load " with lots of room to go up to 3500fps if I choose to.
I'll shoot the 125g's out to 600yds, then the 150g bullets come out to play.
I'll have an avg MV of 3250-3350fps with them.
I'm so proud of my friend & builder & grateful for the few guys that joined in our lil inner circle of mad scientist muzzleloader maniacs & helped out with shared info & ideas.
This has been a 3.5yr dream that is now a real functioning finished gun.
My friend/builder had got a wild hair up his you know what this wknd & him & the guy test shooting it put 40hrs of gunsmith work into this gun over the last 4 days.
This gun WILL SEE the full Tango Down Range as soon as I get it dialed in at 400yds & build my dope chart.
I can not wait!
I won't have it in my possession for another 2wks bc my friend will be doing a bunch of bullet & load testing with it to add to the complied .30 smokeless muzzleloader data that we already have.